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« on: December 08, 2007, 05:46:04 PM »

OK! We have all opened books and smelled the odor of "Musty Books"

How to best deal with it?

Fix it or forget about it? - Just list the book with "Slight musty smell" in the description and hope it sells soon.

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I've heard that placing the book in a plastic bag with a sheet of 'Bounce' (clothes dryer fabric softener sheets) in with it will straighten out the problem but I've wondered if there is some oil in the 'sheet' that might discolor the cover of the book.

Anybody ever try this or does anybody have another solution?

Or should I just continue listing with 'musty smell'?

If it works should the book be shipped with the 'sheet'?
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2007, 10:32:24 PM »

I really don't know much about book 'keeping', care and feeding, but along those same lines, what about that smell remover called  Febreeze? You spray it on surfaces like carpeting, upholstered furniture, pillows, etc. It removes, not masks odors. What if you were to try spraying a musty book with it & putting it in the plastic bag? Available at your local grocer, wallyworld, kmart, etc.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2007, 09:33:27 AM »



Guys,

I would never spray a chemical directly on a book, you never know what kind of reaction it may have.
The best way I've heard of to remove a smell is to get a plastic box, just big enough to hold your book, fill the bottom with baking powder, insert book but on some kind of stand or blocks so that it does not touch the powder. Seal and leave for a week or two. I've not tried this myself yet. There is also higher end stuff if it is for valuable items. Here's a link: http://www.sicpress.com/bookdeodorizer.html
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2007, 01:49:17 AM »

I'd need about two hundred plastic boxes and a 50 pound bag of baking powder (or is it baking soda?)

I bought a library that had been stored in a garage for 12 years. Most are ok but some boxes are pretty strong.

Guess I should practice on a few of the dollar ones but in my mind every book is worth at least 2 dollars...

Lord I love books and would hate to damage any of them experimenting...

The Frebreze might work but I'd be afraid of long term effects. Especially since there are so many different types of paper. Might work well with one type and cause another to disintegrate. You wouldn't know till 2-5-10 years down the line...
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2007, 07:03:32 AM »

The Frebreze might work but I'd be afraid of long term effects. Especially since there are so many different types of paper. Might work well with one type and cause another to disintegrate. You wouldn't know till 2-5-10 years down the line...

Interesting...brings up a question in my little 'Newbie' pea brain. Here goes:
You have a library of books. Many different amounts of wear, quality, ranking for sales.  You may have 100+ year old books, things from the mid century, 20 year old things, & some less than a decade old. And some may be 'musty' smelling. If you do nothing to them re the odor, are they still saleable? How much does it lessen the value? And for the most part, (except in the case of rare, valuable titles) should one REALLY be concerned with disintegration? Consider the pollutants in the air, the atmospheric conditions, the physical abuse (or care) a book may have been exposed to over it's lifetime. If you were to put a bunch of books in a big garbage bag, then take a spray bottle of Febreze & spray into the bag, close bag & let it sit for maybe a few hours or overnite. Do you think that would be a lot worse than, say for example, the Lemon Pledge or Endust, or 409 or Windex that cleaning people may have sprayed the shelves books lived on?  These books all lived in real world situations for their entire life. Just like we humans ingest lots of carcinogins from 2nd hand smoke, nitrates, smog, on and on. 

Examples of what I've done:
Used 409 sprayed on paper towel to remove soil from DJs of all kinds (most are glossy paper). Used same to remove grime from old books, years of accumulated 'who knows what' from from books of all ages & condition. Used Goo Gone to remove sticky residue from books (bindings or DJs). This has resulted in much more cosmetically pleasing appearances to these books. Will this affect them years down the road? Who knows. But I wonder if this kamakze treatment will significantly be any worse than the effects that years of exposure to the above mentioned real world situations the books may have been living with. 

And I'm also wondering this. The 'musty' smell. Since most books live their lives closed, would the 'must' be confined primarily to the bindings? Or does the aroma permeate all the pages as well? Would using the 'Febreze in a bag' or 'baking SODA (baking powder is different) in a bag' erradicate the majority of the smell? (I have almost no sense of smell, so I can't sniff a book & detect anything.)

So, if it makes books more saleable, isn't it worth it, rather than having a stack of books that you'll either have to throw out or put in the 'Good Will' box? With the exception of really rare, valueable books, aren't people just looking for books they want? Not with extremely long term collector value in mind?

I've very uneducated in the world of books, but I'm try to gain knowledge here.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2007, 09:41:14 PM »

I've got a musty smelling book with a sheet of 'Bounce' packed in a plastic bag.

Later tonight I will take a book and spray Frebreeze IN it as I fan the pages and stick it in a plastic bag. (Not with coated paper though. I'm sure that would cause the pages to stick together.)

A third I will put in a bag and spray a bit of Frebreeze in with it.

A fourth I will put in a plastic box with the baking soda.

Someone remind me when a week is up...
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2007, 11:04:35 PM »

Some people swear by kitty litter, but I haven't tried it.  I have used book deoderizer that someone mentioned above and it worked well I put the books in an old cooler with it and took care of both musty smell and one smoke smell book that I had picked up.
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2007, 03:59:28 PM »



For removing glue/sticker/gunk from dustjackets - nothing beats good old Lighter Fluid  'Ronsonol'
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2007, 10:10:27 PM »

For taking many types of labels off you can use a heat gun or hair drier. Heat the label up and then the stick-um releases a bit.

Not that anybody is using VCR anymore but it works on VCR tapes too but you have to be careful not to hit the tape itself with the heat or it shrinks REAL QUICK.

It still leaves the residue Bruce mentioned. WD-40 will also get the sticky off the tape cassette (or any plastic item) but it could leave an oil spot on paper and cloth products. Right on with the Ronsonol. May they never take it off the market.
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Books I put in the plastic bags with the Frebreeze soaked up the stuff. I took them out of the bags to air them out. Some change in odor but it still has a bit of musty smell.
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2007, 08:40:23 PM »

I use GooGone for all gunk/slicker related items - works like a charm.  For big sticker, hard to peel off problems, I use UnDu - works great too.  But the biggest asset is a sticker peeler tool from scotty peeler - my favorite!
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2007, 12:02:56 AM »

We tried baking some whiffy books on low (about 150) for 10-15 minutes to dry them out and de-scent them.  Stood them up and fanned the pages out to get at the innards, not just the outside. Made the kitchen smell VERY strongly of musty book, but they seemed better afterward.  Wiped the covers down with Simple Green and let them air open for a day. Not perfect, but much better than they had been.

Obviously you need to watch them like a hawk to make sure you don't crisp them!
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2007, 08:35:57 AM »

I can see it now rainydaypaperback -

A high class dinner party and the main course is served.

Hemingway under glass. 
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2007, 08:14:24 PM »

I use Bestine to remove sticker gunk, but I use it in a well venilated place!

I try to leave musty books where I find them.  If I just cannot resist a lovely book with a light musty smell,  I use Book Deodorizer.  A shady window sill on dry breezy days works pretty well if you are not in a hurry.

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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2007, 08:54:28 PM »

Hi Vicky,

Welcome to our Forum - thanks for taking some time to join us.
If you have a website or blog feel free to share the address.

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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2007, 12:20:26 PM »

Hi Bruce,

No website or blog...yet.  I have been concentrating on my new bricks and mortar store and on nurturing customers old and new.

Happy New Year! 
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